I have a 82 Archer and love it, and the AP is a real nice feature of course. Having flown the Arrow, the 182, the 152 and the Warrior, I would suggest that there is no competition for a student pilot. Hi, guys. The wings on my 78 Archer are beeeeuuuuuuteeeeful. My plane will never be a speed demon, and few other pilots are likely to look at her with envy, but she's just about perfect for me and I hope to be flying her for a long time to come. aus oder wählen Sie 'Einstellungen verwalten', um weitere Informationen zu erhalten und eine Auswahl zu treffen. The Warrior is the PA28-161. However, the 112 is underpowered and is not as fast as the Arrow and not near as easy to maintain. 1966-68 seem to be the best bang for your buck. Advertisement. Für nähere Informationen zur Nutzung Ihrer Daten lesen Sie bitte unsere Datenschutzerklärung und Cookie-Richtlinie. Also, the tapered wing has "not so pretty" rivet lines. Gross wt. However, I've seen a Cherokee 180 or two nicely equipped and more in line with the prices I have budgeted for. It just looks good sitting on the ramp. The Warrior is the way to go. It is not quite as fast as my old Comanche, but I like the maintenance bills much nicer! Aircraft . PIPER CHEROKEE “180”/“ARCHER” 1963–Present. Powered by Vanilla. Lets ignore the Archer and the 182 for the reasons Ralgah has already stated. For me, though, the last one...the 180G is the way to go...standard six pack, sexy wings and 80,000 pounds of thrust (with the solid rocket booster attached). Private Propellor Planes. As I continue to shop for a plane, I am beginning to think that an Archer/Archer II might be out of my price range with the avionics I'm hoping for. That being said, only Cherokee junkies would notice the difference. Sie können Ihre Einstellungen jederzeit ändern. One of the partners is an A&P and another a CFI. However, I've seen a Cherokee 180 or two nicely equipped and more in line with the prices I have budgeted for. jruhnke. After training and checking out with an instructor, I flew my first solo in the new plane on Mother's Day 2016 I recently purchased a 1973 model, and really loving it. Thanks! I dunno. That is the "tweener" they call the "Challenger." Used to have a '68 Arrow. Initial climb rate 725 fpm. Engine 180-hp Lycoming. I recently bought a share in a 1980 Piper Archer. Empty wt. Airplanes. The tapered wing is longer, so more chance of hanger rash. Yahoo ist Teil von Verizon Media. Though, "Center, Archer 35 Mike doing whatever" sure sounds sexy. Forum Software We've really studied hard. The taper wing is a selling point, though I don't think it is that big a deal. Piper Cherokee 180: New Piper Archer III: STANDARD DATA: Archer (PA-28-180) Seats 4. Ceiling 14,150. CaptKirk, have you been spending too much "quality time" in the turbolift with Spock? Big help if you are really going to have adults in the back. Hersey bar vs. taper is a "who cares". Dazu gehört der Widerspruch gegen die Verarbeitung Ihrer Daten durch Partner für deren berechtigte Interessen. Useful load. Takes a fair bit of shoulder to get her over the door rails and floor lip, even with ramps, and while I know I've got 2-3' of clearance on either side...that just doesn't look like a whole lot when you're up at the nose, head-down and putting your back into it to build up a head of steam! In the final analysis, returning to the original question, its a matter of finances and its a Cherokee, can't go wrong there. Stall 53 kts. Not as expensive as the Archer and has the extended cabin for the rear passenger comfort factor. Η Yahoo αποτελεί μέρος της Verizon Media. I agree with the other post the O-360-A4M is, indeed, bulletproof.